FormerMember

Activation / Registration after software update (....or... Frustration / Rage)

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Posted By FormerMember

So today I was exiting out of Sage and a window popped up saying an update was available and prompting me to install it. No problem, I thought. I have 5 minutes.

But apparently I have to register and activate it.

Well. That was two hours ago.  The serial number they gave me doesn't work.  This has been the most ridiculous waste of time I have ever seen.  It reminds me of the late 90's when companies were just getting online and their processes were laughably complex and unintuitive.

Note the lack of profanity in this note. The profanity coming out of my mouth as I write this would surely get me banned from ever requesting assistance from Sage again, so I am deleting the expletives here as I go.

From this experience I have to wonder if "email address", "User ID", "Username" and "Sage ID" are one in the same. If that's the case I wonder why they use all these different phrases in their software and on their websites.  They are probably different things altogether.  Whatever.

Perhaps I am overreacting. But I have to compare this fiasco with what happens when Windows tells you it has an Update to install. You tell it to go ahead, THAT'S IT. You never hear from it again.

When Windows installs an update, it does not require registration, activation, an email address, a User ID, a Username, a Sage ID, an activation key, a serial number, an account on a Portal site that doesn't even work when I tell it what product I'm using. (There were are only two choices and I chose "Canadian" and gave it the serial number Sage sent me and it says it's not valid. Not valid, it says. Wow, something on the Sage site didn't work. Big surprise there.)

It's 2018. I don't understand how modern software that is running right here on my computer cannot gather all the information it needs from the computer it's running on before installing an update. If the software needs to be updated, go ahead and update it, I DO NOT WANT TO BE INVOLVED, JUST DO IT. Give me a progress bar, that's all I want.

I feel I owe it to the Internet community to spend at least the amount of time I'm wasted here, currently two hours, going online and finding forums out there in which to let people know my opinion of Sage as a company.

I could call to get this problem resolved but it's Sunday and phone support is only available during business hours, apparently. I think I saw somewhere here that Sage boasts 6 million users. Perhaps when they reach 7 million they will be able to afford phone support staff evenings and weekends.

I thought that I would ask the Sage community for help. There is a large colored notification that says that membership is required to participate in the forum. No problem. "Click here to join", it says. So I clicked there. I clicked right on the word "join" just to make sure I was headed to the right spot. The page it took me to would allow a user to sign in, but the standard form to fill in information to actually join is nowhere to be found. There is just an area for existing users to login. I have now spent ANOTHER half hour searching through help and found a link to a page that will allow me to join. So that page does exist. Maybe the link that says "click here to join" should take the user right to that join page rather than a Sign In page.

So now that I'm here and since the update process apparently needs my help, I might as well ask a question. Is there some way to get a working serial number that will work with the Portal when I choose my Canadian Sage 50 Pro product that was just updated? I chose my product out of the list of two products it gave me, and pasted my serial number in and it says it's not valid. I even tried typing it in in case "copy" was copying extra characters or something. I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree but I've been a programmer for 20 years and have copy-n-pasted a few serial numbers in my life, so I'm pretty sure I'm doing it right. So I'm not sure what number to use if the one they sent me is not correct.

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    Hello , 

    Thanks for reaching out. Sounds like your 2018 software prompted you to install 2019? If it did, then it's behind. Note that we're launching the year end update 2019.1 for clients tomorrow. You shouldn't have been prompted to install that yet. 

    Sage City now uses Sage ID and we are working on integrating that for all logins in the future. I see that you created your login yesterday. Regarding your comment :

    When Windows installs an update, it does not require registration, activation, an email addres

    This is why the product Sage Business Cloud Accounting exists. We too prefer no updates, registration and OS problems. Note that your Sage 50 Pro, can integrate its data with Sage | Accounting, and that the features in Sage | Accounting are now equivalent to the Sage 50 Pro edition. To get the two products to speak to each other, you need a Sage 50cloud subscription.

    When upgrading from a 2018 to 2019 version, the software pulls your activation codes unless you select to do it manually or perhaps the internet connection was an issue.

    To acquire your product codes go to https://customers.sagenorthamerica.com/ and use your gmail email address as your login. Then go to Activation Codes > Details to find the listing. Your new 2019 serial number ends with 1121XXXXXX3458


    Also note that if the 2018 software downloaded and installed the 2019 software, then you'll have duplicate installations of Sage 50 on the machine (this is by design so that data files don't override each other unintentionally). Remove old versions, once your confident that you have everything in the newest version in place. Be sure to have data backups in place before upgrading*

    To launch the newest install, find it in your Start menu > All programs > Sage 50, and look for the 2019 mention in the title.

    Hope this helps! - I'll email you your codes.

    Warm Regards, 
    Erzsi

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    I can commiserate. I think the problem is that the major "next version" updates present themselves the same as the relatively small intermediate updates.  Something that's going to take 1.5 hours with 2 or 3 reboots shouldn't just pop up on your screen with a simple "Update Now?  OK / Cancel".

    I've learned never to just say "Yes" to the Sage update question - you got to go read the update documents to find out what kind of "commitment" you are about to make.  If it's a major update I don't start until I've got a few hours budgeted in for issues that may come up (usually things go well, but you have to plan for the worst).

    And yah, I too find the web pages there confusing and have you running around in circles.

    That being said, at least there is a community forum, and I've found the help technicians pretty knowledgeable once you can get through.  I've had much worse experiences with other software companies in this regard.

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    I can relate to all this frustration as well.  I would really like to be able to see what changes are going to happen before you do the upgrade.  I did our upgrade and now we can't use the program the same way as we used to as they have made a change and I can't find out if they are planning to change it back, or fix the problem.  I just keep getting told "there is nothing more I can do for your and there is no one you can talk to" .  I was told the only way to express my displeasure was to submit feedback on this Sage City platform.  I have always been happy with SA and it's service but this is a major change in how we are able to use the software so we will have to consider making a change.

  • 0 in reply to Patti J

    If you share your concern, Patti, maybe one of the other users on this forum can help with suggestions. That is the biggest benefit of this forum.

  • 0 in reply to Patti J

    The answer I received from the Chat support to resolve the issue was that I had to install the 2019 software in it's entirety then uninstall the 2018 version.  Then I would have to go back to my IT offsite support to upgrade the Connection Manager (again) and reboot our server which would affect all of our employees.  I requested the issue be escalated and four hours later someone called me back with a different answer that did not require any of the original instructions.  In all, the problem took the better part of a day to address by which time I had taken care of it myself.  Very poor support.