Exchange gain/loss - revenue vs expense and GST/HST filing "sales and other revenue" line 101

Should we actually be using 2 different accounts for exchange gain vs exchange loss? It doesn't matter for the bottom line, net income will end up the same either way:
Hmm... seems you can only configure one for the program to use automatically for adjustments. So when you need to make manual entries, should you have 2 (in Revenue and in Expense) and opt for one or the other on each entry whether it's a Gain or Loss?

 -  IF exchange/gain loss is a revenue account and it has a negative balance (so deducting from revenue) and then deducting expenses
        Sales revenue:: revenue 100,000
        Other revenue::exchg G/L  -3000
        =============
TOTAL REVENUE  97,000
 -  TOTAL EXPENSE     7000
======================
NET INCOME      90,000

-  IF exchange/gain loss is an expense account with a positive balance (so adding to expenses) then deducting the other expenses and this from revenue
       Sales revenue:: revenue 100,000
        =============
TOTAL REVENUE  100,000

       (all other expenses)  7000
       exchg G/L                    3000
       ====================
TOTAL EXPENSE     10,000

NET INCOME  (100,000 - 10,000) =    90,000


Say you anticipated the currency fluctuations are going to be a gain, so you set up exchg G/L as a revenue. Alas, at end of your period end, it turned out to be a loss!!!

1. What do you do with your GST/HST report on line 101 "sales and other revenue" when your 'other revenue' is a negative. Per this example do you report 100000 or 97000 ?

2. If at period end, exchg G/L is a loss, should you make a J/E to move it to expenses instead (and report the 100,000)? This seems wrong to me  - you didn't receive that much $ and you didn't "spend" 10,000.

3. If you have exchg G/L as expense, does it fall under "General & Admin expenses" heading or an "other expenses" heading or ????   

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    In many of the larger programs there is a Section for Non-Operating Revenues and Expenses which would include Currency Exchange, Income Tax Provision, and Gains/Losses on Sale of Assets. Based on this I would not include exchange gains directly in the Revenue for reporting on HST Return. However, please remember that all figures on the HST Return are in Canadian Dollars be they higher or lower than your foreign currencies.
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    In many of the larger programs there is a Section for Non-Operating Revenues and Expenses which would include Currency Exchange, Income Tax Provision, and Gains/Losses on Sale of Assets. Based on this I would not include exchange gains directly in the Revenue for reporting on HST Return. However, please remember that all figures on the HST Return are in Canadian Dollars be they higher or lower than your foreign currencies.
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