Unable to post Year-End Adjusting Entries to "1200 Accounts Receivable"

Yes, this problem is probably related to "linked accounts" -- and, yes, this question
has been asked maybe 8 times before -- but it seems that none of those threads
were satisfactorily answered.   Either important information was missing (such as
the details or specific reasons for those Closing Entries), or the thread devolved
into some convoluted baffle-gab techno-speak that never answered the original Q.
Thus hopefully this thread will be different, with all the important details provided.

The accountant wants me to post the following as part of the FYE Closing Entries:
1200        Accounts Receivable .................................. 0.62
1202  Accounts Receivable Pre/overpaid ..... 0.61
5715  Office Expenses .................................. 0.01

One client overpaid their invoices by 61 cents -- another client overpaid by 1 cent.
(I'm not sure how the accountant got to an additional 1 cent of Office Expenses.)

I thought I had solved the overpayments by posting these entries before year-end:
1200  Accounts Receivable .......................... 0.61
4120        Sales .......................................................... 0.53
2350        GST/QST Payable ..................................... 0.08

1200  Accounts Receivable .......................... 0.01
4120        Sales .......................................................... 0.01

Sure enough, the "Customers & Sales" tab/homepage shows that their balances
are both $0.00.   However, when I go to the "Company" tab/homepage, and then
click "Chart of Accounts", the numbers show "1200 Accounts Receivable = 0.62",
and "1202 Accounts Receivable prepaid/overpaid = -0.61".   As for the other cent,
"5715 Office Expenses = 0.00".   (?)

How can I input the accountant's Closing Adjusting Entry, knowing Sage refuses
to let me post General Journal entries using "1200" & "1202"?    Sage does offer,
however, "1201 Accounts Receivable other" -- whose balance is currently $0.00.

  • 0
    When you check the Maintenance, Check Data Integrity menu option, do you see any discrepancies?

    If not, then please let us know where your account 1202 is linked?

    Please also confirm that when you look at the Balance sheet on the year end date, that the balances of 1200 and 1202 are the balances you are trying to alter. Just looking at the chart of accounts ledger window to see the balance is usually irrelevant because it is not date-sensitive (note the message at the top left "Balances are as of the latest transaction date").

    The answer will be the same as in most of the other threads, post the entry in the Sales module but you have indicated that the customers do not owe money and to correct this, you need to alter one or more customer account balances. If they are zero already, then you may have already unlinked the accounts to post an entry in the General Journal and therefore your balances are out.
  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings

    Thanks for the speedy reply, Richard.   After all these years, I’ve never looked at
    “Data Integrity” (or any resulting Balance Sheets / Trial Balances, for that matter).
    I merely input all the Sales, Deposits, Bank Credits, Expenses and Bank Debits,
    and then bring a USB stick to the accountants -- so this is all new territory for me.

    Sure enough, “Data Integrity” does have discrepancies, as shown in detail below:

    The $2,000.62 which you see is the product of this year’s overpayments of $0.62,
    plus a 2013 prepayment of $2,000.00 which seems to have never been recorded.

    The -$19.90 is the result of those $0.62 overpayments, plus a 2014 overpayment
    of $19.28.   As such, the "Customers & Sales" homepage shows their balance as
    being $1,980.72 – (in other words: $2,000.00 - $19.28), but it should really be $0.

    As for the Balance Sheet, the balances for #1200 and #1202 are indeed a match
    because my “Session Date” is, effectively, the year-end date – Oct 1 vs. Sept 30:

    I’m not sure how to post the Adjusting Entry in the Sales module (or how to alter
    the customer account balance) considering the comment in your final paragraph:
    Both the “$0.61” and “$0.01” customers already have a zero balance -- whereas
    the “$1,980.72” customer does NOT, though it too should be zero.

    I don’t know if I’m in trouble, but in my 1st year on Sage, I may have been guilty
    of your statement: “you may have already unlinked the accounts to post an entry
    in the General Journal and therefore your balances are out.”

  • 0 in reply to Steve J.
    Steve, you are definitely in trouble. Hold out your hand and slap your wrist and say, "Don't do that again!"...assuming you did unlink the accounts.

    OK, now seriously, the issue can be fixed but just not in the simple steps the accountant gave you. But first, the concept of double-entry bookkeeping started hundreds of years ago and was actually paper books written in with quill and dipped ink, etc. If you recorded something in the sales book, you had to update the Accounts Receivable book if they still owed you and you had to update your income statement in the general ledger book to reflect the sale, etc.

    In software, if you unlink the accounts and post an entry in the general journal, you are basically not recording anything in the Accounts Receivable (A/R) book. So when the customer with the $1980.72 owing, paid the bill, nothing was recorded in the A/R book, the customer still owed the money if you looked in that book but you updated the bank balance by the payment so the bank rec worked. This essentially breaks the linking between the books and they no longer balance as you have found.

    To fix it, I think the easiest way is to do this in steps (AFTER you take a backup or two of your file).

    0) Backup your file

    1) Look up each of the original entries that you made to receive the money when you originally unlinked the accounts and posted the entries. I would assume you put the $1980.72 in the bank (debit), what was the credit side? Did you send this to a sales/revenue account a second time (first time is the invoice still outstanding on your Customer Aged report - right side of the data integrity). If you did send it to a sales/revenue account then it sounds like you have double-posted revenue.

    2) Go to each customer who owes money, record "an appropriate" entry to get rid of it so it is no longer owing. The appropriate entry is dependent on what you find in #1. Because you are dealing with year end entries, some of these entries might be better to post in the current fiscal year, not the last fiscal year or you may be altering the numbers on your tax return. I would consult your accountant because we don't have enough information on everything pertinent in this situation. This step should bring your Customer Aged Report to a zero balance owing but your accounts on the balance sheet will now be different. You can look at the journal entry before you post from the Report menu.

    3) Now you need to post a general journal entry or three. Unlink both accounts temporarily under Setup, Settings, Receivables or Customers and Sales, Linked Accounts.

    4) Post the accountant's year end adjusting entries so the accounts balance to their figures at year end. Use the last day of the fiscal year per the accountant's instructions.

    5) If you posted the sales entries in #2 above in the current fiscal year, then on that same date, post entries to bring the balances of each account 1200 and 1202 back to what they were before you posted the entries (in this case, you probably should be shooting for a zero balance because from your data integrity, it looks like you do not have any money owing by customers in your books right now). The other side of the entry will be whatever you found in Step #1 above.

    6) Relink the accounts.

    7) Check your data integrity, Customer Aged Report and Balance sheet

    8) Never do this again if you can help it!

    Take a backup or two of your file BEFORE you start doing anything.

    If you are having problems with these, you might find it worthwhile to talk with a consultant who can help you through it. We have a different version of the program that allows us to post entries directly to the linked accounts to fix these kinds of issues but you still have to correct the Customer's balances owing because they are incorrect in your case. This can be done in the Sales or Receipts module depending on what is appropriate for your circumstances.

    Hope this helps
  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings

    Oh dread!!!

    I had feared that a simpleton like me would feel bamboozled & overwhelmed by
    the potential response, but I didn’t think it would be so lengthy and complicated.

    Just looking at your item #1 is already frazzling me, because I’m not even sure
    that I did unlink the accounts back in 2012.   Back then, in my 1st year on Sage,
    I knew nothing, but I vaguely remember talking on the phone with a Vancouver
    Sage representative, and I believe he guided me through the steps of posting
    a “1200 Accounts Receivable” adjusting entry by having to unlink the accounts.

    If I did so at the time, I don’t know if I re-linked them afterwards (or if I ever did),
    but my current “Setup > Settings” looks like this:
     

    I don’t dare contemplate the rest of your wonderful answer until I can determine
    whether I indeed unlinked the accounts; but I’ll try to answer the rest of your #1.

    __________


    It seems that the $2,000.00 payment was posted like this at the time of deposit
    because an invoice did not exist, nor was there a foreseeable one in the future:

    1060  Royal Bank ..................................... 2,000.00
    1201        Accounts Receivable other ........................ 2.000.00

    The $19.28 overpayment during the following year was actually posted like this:

    1060  Royal Bank ..................................... 1,307.00
    1200        Accounts Receivable ................................. 1,287.72
    1202        Accounts Rec. Pre/overpaid ......................      19.28

    It does not appear that either were originally sent to a Sales/Revenue account,
    but then these 2 items were posted as 2014 FYE entries “BY” the accountants:
     

    1202  Accounts Rec. Pre/overpaid ................ 19.29
    4120        Sales ………………………………….…………. 19.29

    5716  Bad Debt ………………………..….. 3,200.00
    1200        Accounts Receivable ................................. 2,000.00
    1201        Accounts Receivable other ........................ 1.200.00

    I don’t know why it’s “$19.29” as opposed to “$19.28”, nor do I know why or IF
    the 2nd entry is in any way related to the $2,000.00 prepayment, but I doubt it.

    However, first and foremost in my mind is 1) whether I did unlink the accounts;
    2) did I relink them; and 3) what’s my status?   Is there any way to tell for all 3?   
    I assume that since my current “Setup > Settings” screenshot shows a filled-in
    “Accounts Receivable”, it’s therefore “linked”.   (But what the heck do I know.)

  • 0 in reply to Steve J.
    Small correction:

    It turns out that the “$19.29” is an amalgamation of the “$19.28” overpayment
    plus the “$0.01” overpayment I mentioned near the very top of my 1st posting.

    Both of those payments happened in 2014, whereas the “$0.61” overpayment
    happened in 2015 – which is the financial year I’m trying to close, even though
    my Session Date is, for some unknown reason, October 1st, 2015, rather than
    September 30th, 2015.
  • 0 in reply to Steve J.

    Steve J. said:
    Back then, in my 1st year on Sage,
    I knew nothing, but I vaguely remember talking on the phone with a Vancouver
    Sage representative, and I believe he guided me through the steps of posting
    a “1200 Accounts Receivable” adjusting entry by having to unlink the accounts.

    I hate to say it but sometimes it is better to work with a consultant than tech support for data entry-related issues.  I have found consultants will ask more questions and review the file more closely.  But having said that, we can't make any conclusion here because I am afraid even my vague memory has been proven wrong sometimes.

    And then you said

    Steve J. said:
    It does not appear that either were originally sent to a Sales/Revenue account,
    but then these 2 items were posted as 2014 FYE entries “BY” the accountants:

    which seems more logical to me.  Accounting offices do what they can to help companies but they do not/possibly cannot take the time to always understand how each of the 15-30 pieces of software they use in any given year work.  So they just get the job done to match their reports.  They likely unlinked to get the entries done.

    Steve J. said:
    I don’t dare contemplate the rest of your wonderful answer until I can determine
    whether I indeed unlinked the accounts; but I’ll try to answer the rest of your #1.

    The image shows you are linked.  Normally the default linking of Deposits is to account 2460 (because amounts paid by customers but not invoiced are liabilities), but it can be changed.

    Steve J. said:
    However, first and foremost in my mind is 1) whether I did unlink the accounts;
    2) did I relink them; and 3) what’s my status?   Is there any way to tell for all 3?   
    I assume that since my current “Setup > Settings” screenshot shows a filled-in
    “Accounts Receivable”, it’s therefore “linked”.   (But what the heck do I know.)

    Answers:

    1) Maybe, maybe not.  Sounds like the accountants did but

    2) they are relinked again so you can't use those accounts in the General Journal entries unless you unlink them again.

    3) Seriously, still confused is the answer! ok, sorry, but let's fix it.

    Based on the information you have provided and my interpretation, the first step is to get your year end books for Sep 30/15 matching the accountant's trial balance (assuming they gave you one with the year end adjusting entries).

    Second step is to get the Customer Aged report matching the real zero amounts owing.  This will also fix your Data Integrity Discrepancy errors.  Because account 1201 is a zero balance, we cannot post the entry in the 2015 year end, you need to post it in Oct/15.

    Step ZERO: BACK UP your company file.

    Step 1a: Unlink the accounts by going to the Account linking screen (image you provided) and delete the accounts in Accounts Receivable and Deposits and Prepaid Contracts.  You may get a warning about foreign currencies but you shouldn't because that module is turned off in your file.

    Step 1b: Post the accountant's year end adjusting entries so those accounts go to zero on the balance sheet.  Use your year end date for that year.

    Step 1c: Relink the Accounts Receivable account to 1200 and Deposits and Prepaid Contracts to account 1202.

    Step 1d: Check the data integrity.  You should see a zero balance on the left but the original balances on the right are the same and the discrepancy should remain.

    Step 1e: Confirm that your trial balance matches the Accountant's year end trial balance.

    Step 2a: Check the balance of the bank account on Oct 1/15 (first day of new fiscal year I believe) possibly still -1195.29.

    Step 2b: Use Receipts to receive any amount owing/prepaid for any customer.  Use the Royal Bank account in the Bank drop down.  Date should be Oct 1/15.

    Step 2c: Check the Customer Aged report to make sure no customers owe money.  Run it in detail as well using zero days instead of 999 at the bottom to make sure no invoices are unpaid.  If there are, let me know (show me an image if it's ok with you to show us the detail or black out the your company and customer names).

    Step 2d: Unlink the Accounts Receivable and Deposits and Prepaid Contracts accounts again as you did in Step 1a.

    Step 2e: Post a general journal entry on Oct 1/15 to remove the amount of money you just added to the bank account in total to each of the other accounts as necessary to bring the balances of accounts 1200 and 1202 to what I believe should be zero on Oct 1/15.  The bank account should go back to the original -$1195.29 balance and accounts 1200 and 1202 should be zero.

    Step 2f: Relink the Accounts Receivable and Deposits and Prepaid Contracts accounts as you did in step 1c.

    Step 2g: Check your Data Integrity to make sure it says Data Ok.

    Step 2h: Check the balances of your accounts on the balance sheet for Oct 1/15 to make sure they are as they were before you started this step.

    In your general journal entries, use the comment to clearly show what you are trying to do so you have information for the future if the accountants or CRA ask.

    Based on my interpretation of the information you have provided, this is what I think is required to get you back in line again.  It sounds like a lot but it can all be done in less than a half hour likely.

    For your Oct/15 bank rec, you will see a debit and credit on Oct 1/15 for the same amount.  Click off each and mark them as Adjustment instead of Cleared.  The entries should not affect your bank rec if you click both as cleared/adjustment.

    If anyone else can see anything I might have missed in my interpretation, please jump in.  My assumption here is that the accountant or Steve J has already handled the proper entries to record the invoicing amounts and write offs regarding amounts not paid in full.

    If you still have problems, click on my name send me an email.

    Hope this helps

  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings

    Wow!!!

    Many thanks for everything you posted.   :-)    And in many more ways than one.

    Thanks for letting me know that it doesn’t/didn’t matter if-and-when the accounts
    were unlinked and relinked.   I was really scared that was going to be a concern.

    Also, thanks for re-confirming “how” to unlink those accounts -- (by making their
    “Setup > Settings” entries temporarily blank).   Sometimes things aren’t obvious.

    Thanks also for advising me to match the accountant’s Year-End Trial Balance.   
    I had never considered that before, and that lets me know I'm on the right track.

    And of course thanks for also predicting what the Data Integrity would look like:

    The $4,000.00 is the result of this additional Adjusting Entry by the accountant:

    1200  Accounts Receivable ..................... 4,000.00
    1250        Inter Company ……………........................ 4,000.00

    It’s funny how things would have looked like if the accounts remained unlinked.   
    This is what the Data Integrity looked like before I had relinked those accounts:

    Now, every-everything matches the accountant’s Trial Balance to a tee except
    for the Retained Earnings (which always excludes the current year’s loss/profit).

    For step 2, I believe the following is what you want me to post:

                                              LINKED (2b):
    1060  Royal Bank .................................... 1,980.72
    1200        Accounts Receivable ................................ 1,980.72

                                           UNLINKED (2e):
    1200  Accounts Receivable .................... 1,980.72
    1060        Royal Bank …………................................. 1,980.72

    Actually, I feel like holding-off on those Step 2s until (hopefully) your next reply.   
    Mucho mucho thanks for everything you’ve written – nevermind it’s great detail.

    :-)

  • 0 in reply to Steve J.
    I'm confused. How did your balance sheet accounts receivable account get to a $4000 balance without posting a sales invoice?

    Step 2e was supposed to be a journal entry that took the balance of account 1200 and 1202 as indicated, to zero.

    What you are suggesting is to take the money from Accounts Receivable and put it in the bank and then put it back again. Seems a little unnecessary because it doesn't fix anything, does it?
  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings

    Oh no!!!
    I thought that everything was resolved.   I was merely looking for a confirmation.

    But you’re right.   The $4,000 is indeed odd in that it doesn’t refer to a customer
    but, rather, an inter-company loan/cheque from the Ontario company.   As such,
    the A/R totals won’t ever equal the list of customers.   However, that is what the
    accountants have as an Adjusting Entry, and I posted it as “unlinked” -- just like
    the original “$0.62” problem up-top which started this thread.

    I’m guessing that the best thing I can do for the time being is to leave this quirk
    as is, and bring it to the accountants’ attention when I give them the 2016 data,
    asking them to reverse it for a different Adjusting Entry.  (They use CaseWare.)
    _____________

    As for your latest reference to Step 2e:   it was the accountants’ adjusting entry
    (Step 1b) that was the “journal entry that took the balance of account 1200 and
    1202 as indicated, to zero.”  That’s the original problem which brought me here.

    1200        Accounts Receivable .................................. 0.62
    1202  Accounts Receivable Pre/overpaid ..... 0.61
    5715  Office Expenses .................................. 0.01

    After posting the above as “(1b) unlinked”, I thought the problem was resolved
    because both “1200” and “1202” were now zero.
    _____________

    The only remaining quandary was the customer who prepaid $2,000 without it
    ever being in the A/R book -- minus $19.28 overpaid on a subsequent invoice.   
    (See very 1st screenshot above.)    That’s what I thought your 2b and 2e were
    referring to:   eliminating the outstanding $1,980.72.

    Sorry about your confusion over my confusion.   :-)

  • 0 in reply to Steve J.

    If you are still having problems, I will offer one more time what I offered in the second last line of my third post.