Square Processing Fees

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We have accepted a few payments via the Square reader. They charge a fee percentage off the top. 

My question is how do I reconcile that amount, do I do a general journal entry? I am new to the whole Sage 50 program, so any help you can provide would be much appreciated! 

I have these 2 transactions to account for so far - 

Customer Invoice - $597.45 total 
Square deposit to bank account of $576.02
Square fee of $21.43 

Square deposit to bank account of $4.87
Paid from company Mastercard (as a test) of $5.00

  • 0
    Setup | Settings | Credit Cards | Accepted there is a 'discount fee' setting.

    Open the Sample Company to get an idea how to set it up.
  • 0
    create a square bank account in sage
    receive payment of 597.45, etc from the customer into square bank
    when you get the bank stmt, transfer funds from square bank to real bank for each transaction on the statement
    pay expenses to 'square' referencing an account like 'c/card fees' for the balance in the square bank
  • 0 in reply to Roger L
    Thanks Roger, that definitely helps.
    Do I then set up square as a vendor in order to pay the credit card fees from the square bank account?
  • 0 in reply to beckyt

    I did as suggested, but I still get this error when trying to leave History Mode and process all of my first months transactions - can you help?

  • +1 in reply to beckyt
    verified answer
    This check is to determine if you are balanced in your setup when starting to use Sage 50. You started using Sage 50 the day after you stopped using your old system. What was the balance of all amounts owing to you from your customers on the day you stopped using your old bookkeeping system?

    This report says it is $17,399.85 and is what you would see on your Customer Aged report on the first day you started using Sage 50 if you posted no other transactions that day. These might have been entered under the Historical Transaction tabs of the customer ledgers or under Setup, Setup Guide, Customers. This total is supposed to also be the same opening balance you have in your general ledger account 1200 the day you start using Sage 50. However, the apparent amount of money that you paid to Square is the difference.

    Is this a timing issue? This message thread never mentions any opening balance issue until your last post nor the timing of your transactions in the first post above vs. the timing of starting using Sage 50.

    But assuming you started using Sage 50 Mar 1, and your customers owed $17,399.85 as of Feb 28 and your customer didn't pay by Square until March, then the opening balance of account 1200 should be $17,399.85 also shouldn't it? The March payment is not an opening balance.

    If my assumption is not correct, you need to fill in a lot of gaps here.

    What date did you start using Sage 50/stop using your old bookkeeping system?
    On the Trial balance or Balance sheet of your old system, how much did your customers owe you?
    What was the total of all the invoices your customers owed on the last day using your old system?
    What date was the entry for the payment through square in your first post in this thread?
    Do the closing balances of each account in your old system match the opening balances entered in Sage 50? Check under Setup, Setup Guide, Accounts to see all the opening balance amounts.
    What was your old bookkeeping system?
    What is your fiscal year?
  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings


    Hi Richard,

    What date did you start using Sage 50/stop using your old bookkeeping system? - (July 1, 2016)

    On the Trial balance or Balance sheet of your old system, how much did your customers owe you? ($133,124.50 (from trial balance from Accountant - we did not use a system before, and I started here in October))

    What was the total of all the invoices your customers owed on the last day using your old system? ($133,124.50)

    What date was the entry for the payment through square in your first post in this thread? (July 19, 2016)

    Do the closing balances of each account in your old system match the opening balances entered in Sage 50? Check under Setup, Setup Guide, Accounts to see all the opening balance amounts. (Yes, they match as I put them all in from the trial balance itself)

    What was your old bookkeeping system? (None)

    What is your fiscal year? (July 1 2016 - June 30, 2017)

    That is why I'm not understanding either...everything was entered into opening account balances correctly, at the $133,124.50 balance. I applied payments received throughout July (recorded as payments against each customer and outstanding historical invoices). The total I have outstanding for historical transactions at the end of July should match to the $17,399.85.

    Did I do this wrong as per the instructions above?? 





  • 0 in reply to beckyt
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply. So far the math looks good.

    When you run the Customer Aged Report on Jul 1/16 do you get the same $133,124.50 owing or is it $21.43 higher ($133,145.93)? This report should match the same list of individual invoices owing that your accountant gave you or someone at your company gave your accountant at year end. My assumption is that one or more invoice balances were entered incorrectly. You can run the Customer Aged Detail report on Jul 1/16 to check with the reports from your accountant (which appears to be your old system).

    Do you get the same dollar discrepancy under Maintenance, Check Data Integrity? I would suspect yes.
  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings
    Thanks for getting back to me so quickly Richard.

    When I pull the customer aged I get the $133,145.93 as of July 1st. (Data integrity also tells me my customer account balances do not match, you're correct there)

    Does that mean I put the historical data in incorrectly? Or would this have meant that my accountant gave me the AR totals with the square fee of $21.43 already accounted for and taken off? I put in the outstanding historical data as the actual amounts on invoices, in this case the $597.45 on the CON-AL invoice.

    Just looked at our general ledgers they provided, and on the AR they did have $576.02 as the outstanding balance, so that definitely accounts for the difference!

    So now to fix, would you recommend entering another historical invoice for a credit amount of $21.43, since it's already accounted for in our 2015-2016 fiscal year? I cannot delete/adjust a historical entry entered under the customer, as far as I am aware.
  • 0 in reply to beckyt

    Up above in a past post, you answered the question

    beckyt said:
    What was the total of all the invoices your customers owed on the last day using your old system? ($133,124.50)

    This should have been the balance of that Customer Aged Detail report.

    I can't see how your accountant can give you a total owing by your customer on Jun 30/16 of $576.02 that includes the amount Square took off on Jul 19 when on Jun 30, the accountant didn't know the customer was going to pay via Square, nor what that discount fee would be.

    At this point, I have been assuming that Square actually deposited the $576.02 to your account after taking their discount.  If that is the case, then the original amount paid was $597.45.  So the account 1200 balance is incorrect.

    If you edit the Opening balance of account 1200, then you will have to send the difference to another account.  Check all the opening balances on the accounts on your balance sheet with the financials at June 30/16 to make sure you have not entered any others incorrectly as opening balances and if you find they are all correct, I would post the difference to Retained Earnings.  There is probably another account that is off by the $21.43 but the amount is so small I would not necessarily spend a lot of time trying to figure it out.  Because June 30 is the company year end, you are only dealing with Balance Sheet accounts to balance, so you can't send the amount to the income statement.

    If an adjustment needs to be done to balance Retained Earnings at year end, the accountant will pick it up and post it.

    Or, you can talk with the accountant and ask what to do.

  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings

    Thanks Richard. I think the issue is that we switched accountants half way through the year, and they literally just submitted our corporate taxes in December for fiscal year ending June 30th. They did have copies of everything that was paid in July, August, September, so did in fact enter the discounted price into AR minus the square processing fee. I can see in the ledger they put the square fee towards interest and banking charges but don't know the balance account - very well could be retained earnings as you stated above. To be fair, when I started in October, and took the Sage training in January, I have a backlog of 8 months to enter now, and the accountant previously was given BUCKETS and BOXES of paperwork and receipts, including thousands of visa receipts. If I'm out $21.43 overall, I don't think it's worth digging too much for, you're correct.

    I will change my 1200 AR opening balance July 1st to be $133,145.93 and post the $21.43 difference to retained earning to move on with my year.

    Thanks so much for all of your help.

  • 0
    Hi !
    Try
    Setup ... Settings ... Company ... Credit cards ... accepted ... Fill in the three colums
    When you make a sale with the box the amount (reduced) will be deposited in your bank account and at the same time the % will go to the expence section 5645 = credit card charges.
    Hope this helps.
  • 0 in reply to beckyt

    Can you show the details of the 3 entries to us?

    If J95 was a Receivable->Payment applied to an invoice that had been entered AND you had Square already set up as a credt card with a discount rate, then the 21.43 would be accounted for in J95 and there would be no need to re-enter it in a separate journal entry.

  • FormerMember
    0 FormerMember in reply to Roger L

    But that means for every receipt from Square, we have to make another entry between our operating bank, our Square "bank" and credit card charges?  In a month, we have 100+ entries from Square - that's a lot of additional entries.  And one monthly entry would make reconciling the operating bank more difficult.

    The problem is Square (and other credit card providers) charges a different rate depending on what credit card was actually used.  There should be a field in Sage 50 in the Receipts to enter our own variable processing fee amount, not just a straight percentage.

  • 0 in reply to FormerMember

    Dovienya,

    You would not do it this way if the Square fee is not a set percentage. The problem with what you propose - having an extra field to enter a cc fee % on the fly - is that you usually can't anticipate why they charge 3c more for this card or 7c more for that card etc... (DUE TO WHAT A LOVELY WELL RUN AND *l*o*l* TRANSPARENT *l*o*l* CC INDUSTRY (BANKING INDUSTRY as a whole) WE HAVE)

    We have the same issue with Moneris - not a set %. Our fee, however, is not shaved off each transaction. Moneris deposits the whole amount to us and then deducts their percentages in lump sums for each card (V,M,A,D) at month end. So, we do it this way:
    - Instead of bank account, the sale amount goes to Visa receipts or MC receipts.
    - At month end, each card type just gets 2 entries:
        - Visa deposits cleared by bank  (move the actual NET we receive) from Visa receipts to bank acct
        - Visa fees paid this month (move from Visa receipts to expense acct for CC processing fees)

    (Visa receipts acct should end up at 0 each month)

    If your fees are not predictable (not a set %), even though Square may remove their amounts immediately, I would just do the same. Assuming you are offered a way to get some type of monthly summary - sit down after month end and calculate total fees deducted during that month for each of Visa, MC, etc.

    PayPal is the same - they deduct a fee right away. Although we do in this case have PayPal CAD and PayPal USD set as bank accounts, we still don't adjust each transaction for fees - just 1 general journal at month end for each currency is sufficient, keeping a copy of the statement as reference.