Outstanding amount in reconciliation

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I am new to the position of bookkeeper at a business that has been using Simply for years.  I did a reconciliation and everything looked fine.  Unresolved: 0.00 Discrepancies: 0.00.  For some strange reason, I decided to add up my outstanding amounts, and it came out different than what Simply is telling me at the bottom of the reconciliation.  It is out by 400.45.  Weird!!  I search that amount and the only time it appears is back in 2008 and it is a credit card charge, nothing to do with the bank account.  I went into reports and did a report of outstanding and the 400.45 does NOT appear and the total on the report is the same as what I came up with when I added them up in the reconciliation.  I would just disregard it, except, if I take my Bank balance and subtract the outstandings from the report that agrees with my manual calculations, I'm out by, you guessed it 400.45?????????????  HELP!!!!

  • 0 in reply to Smith and Co

    I did try that, but landed up with a discrepancy of like 5,000.00 and an unresolved of 400.45!!!! ECKKK!! I am really beginning to hate that number 400.45 lol.  Think I will try it again, as I must have done something wrong to have landed up with a big discrepancy,  Will play around with it a little more and try and figure it out, might be that I am using the wrong new starting balance.  

  • 0 in reply to Nenos

    Hi Nenos

    There are so many possibilities and variations as to what may or may not be right or wrong with you bank reconciliation.

    Smithco makes a great recommendation in her recent Post:

    "try an outside help as suggested earlier"

    "I would suggest calling Sage Tech again with this specific error"

    "Tony Martin from Code 6 Programming"

    Please try one or more of those and you will finally get to the bottom of this.

    You can also follow this link to Sage Support Knowledge base to help with doing bank reconciliations:

    http://goo.gl/MVbGNE

    It could also be this problem that Smithco was referring to:

    "Resolved amount shown in the bank reconciliation while no entry has been cleared. Article

    Products

    Sage 50—Canadian Edition

    Description

    The bank reconciliation window is showing "Resolved" as with amounts, yet there has not been a single transaction check marked.

    Cause

    When client is using deposit slip, withdrawal and deposit from and to the same bank account, then void one of the transactions within that deposit slip, since deposit slips are not reversible; the bank rec has to show the correction on resolved amount

    Resolution

    Method I: Bank Rec Reset

    Reset your bank reconciliation (see Related Resources)

    Method II:

    Avoid create deposit slip using the same account in From and To.

    Method III:

    Run "Fix Bankrec" using the Support Utilities. For assistance with this step, please contact Sage 50 Support at 1-888-522-2722.

    Check & uncheck the checkbox of Do not show corrections in the bank reconciliation."

    But to be honest I think your best bet is "Try an outside help" as Smithco recommends.

    Here is a link to Outside Help:

    edirectory.accpac.com/simplysearch

    Hope this will help you move forward with this.

    Jo Anne

  • 0 in reply to Nenos

    are these the beginning balances before any transactions are reconciled ? because the difference is only 372.87

    I presume the 27.58 is a transaction in Sage that hasn't yet cleared the bank

    what you want to know is the beginning sage and bank balances before reconciling... they should be the same

    if not, as Coach suggested, create a JE (db/cr bank and cr/db expense account) so that when you select/reconcile just that transaction, sage and bank are the same

    reconcile the statement as you normally would, so that the ending sage and bank balances are identical (ignoring outstanding transactions)

    then next month, sage and bank beginning balances will match

    it could be that back in 2003, someone reset the bank rec and entered the incorrect opening balance

  • 0 in reply to Roger L

    Hi CRBookkeeping,

    The error is profit/loss neutral; so to create an expense would have profit/loss implications.

    That is not the way.

  • 0 in reply to JSB

    Hi Nenos,

    The next thing to verify is your trial balance, that it is correct.

    Run a report for all transactions for the bank account, and verify that the balance is the same as your bank statement. (adjusting only the actual outstanding)(and no discrepancy between it and trial balance) only discrepancy would be in reconciliation balance by the phantom amount.)

    Assuming the above is so:

    From an accounting point the problem does not involve a profit/loss transaction, nor a balance sheet imbalance.

    Your financials are good; the only thing that is out is reconciliation.

  • 0 in reply to JSB

    somebody that knows simply well, should know of utilities or editors to discover the outstanding reconciliation file so that it can be corrected.

  • 0 in reply to JSB
    verified answer

    Thank you Smithco, for suggesting Tony Martin,  emailed him the problem, and confirmed it was probably a data error, but not worth fixing it as it is so far back. but suggested doing the journal entry to fix the balance, then reset my reconciliation, AND IT WORKED!!!! YAY!!!  I had tried several times to reset the reconciliation but kept coming up with that same amount in the unresolved instead of in the outstanding and a couple of times end with a big discrepancy amount, was very frustrating.   But all fixed now,  Thank you everyone for listening and trying to help.  :)

  • 0 in reply to Nenos

    No problem at all - glad to hear it all worked out in the end and mostly due to your perseverance to continually answering questions from us all and digging into the previous years rec to find the original error - that was great work!

    Tony helped me in a very similar situation to yours with similar answer. It also looked like Jo the Software Coach was going in the right direction too re journal entry - just needed the bank rec to finish it off.

    Glad you gave out the solution as per Tony's answer for future reference.

  • 0 in reply to The Software Coach

    Hi Nenos,

    What kind of Journal entry did you do, and for what date?

  • 0 in reply to JSB

    Credited my bank account and Debited the bank adjustment account and just used yesterday's date.  Not sure what the accountant will do with it at year end, but my rec balances, and my bank account balance is now right, so for day to day operations, it is good.  LOL  

  • 0 in reply to Nenos

    So, is the phantom amount in outstanding now gone?

  • 0 in reply to JSB

    Yes it is!  But I had to reset my bank reconciliation as well as do the journal entry, or the journal entry would be sitting in the reconciliation forever, as I could never clear it as being on the bank statement as it never would be.